![]() Then I like humanism because it stacks with tolerance even more. I personally like defensive for ottoman since if you go full legalism you have no innate morale boosts, though any mil idea works, or no mil ideas, but I like to balance idea groups. Influence had AE reduction, and other great stuff for Ottoman, Admin's CCR stacks really well, as well as the extra states. So a dip idea group first, used to be influence when that was OP, this way you can get a few of the ideas in there, and still get the first 2 in admin quickly when you hit five, meaning you'll have more quickly unlock the CCR from both admin and your first ottoman idea. Logic used to be, you can generate insane amounts of MP as Ottomans very early through incredibly good starting ruler/potentially great heir, as well as the ability to afford higher advisors quickly and maintaining high PP, so getting ahead on tech is easy, and it's better to try to get to admin 5, instead of taking an admin first idea group and slow you down. Trade, expansion, quality, offensive, pretty much anything after that depending on what you're doing. ![]() ![]() I used to take influence, admin, then defensive for first 3, followed by humanist, then the rest depends. I do not like any of these combo's so far listed. ![]()
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